School stabbing spree: 20 hurt in Pittsburgh-area bloodbath
(Photo: NBC News)
As many as 20 students were hurt, some with life-threatening wounds, when a classmate went on a stabbing rampage through the classrooms and halls of a high school outside Pittsburgh on Wednesday morning, authorities said.
proof if you take away guns, people will still find ways to hurt each other
Yes, but let’s consider that for a moment: Thus far, there have been no deaths. All the victims are expected to live. In the Newtown, Conn. shooting, Adam Lanza killed twenty-six people in less than five minutes. Not maimed — killed.
A gun is going to make a person more lethal, in less time, from further away. With other methods, like a knife, the attacker must get close to their intended targets (versus spraying bullets indiscriminately), and this gives opportunity for others to run and/or subdue the assailant.
When the principal at Newtown tried to stop Lanza, she was murdered. The vice principal in this case was able to tackle the suspect and he was cuffed by the school resource officer. Yes, people will still find ways to hurt each other. There’s no reason to make it easier for them to do so.
Please don’t claim this attack “proves” gun control proponents wrong, or firearms advocates right. I will admit, my first thought was, “Thank God he didn’t have a gun” — however, when are we going to have a discussion about what leads a high school sophomore to this kind of attack as a solution? Or anyone, for that matter? Perhaps he had access to guns and maybe he didn’t. We don’t know.
The undeniable truth here is that for whatever reason, he chose knives, and that choice, in this instance, may have made it more difficult for him to rack up the kind of body count we have seen as a nation in similar mass attacks when a gun is used.
I’ve tended to find that, after shooting sprees, victims don’t post selfies of themselves recovering in hospital. Mainly because they go to the morgue, not the wards.
Actually, taking away firearms won’t prevent people from committing acts of heinous violence. It also doesn’t mean that they will be easier to stop because they can’t shoot you from 20 feet away.
A knife is a killer, just like a gun. Pretending like it isn’t, and that guns are worse, is a ridiculous notion. Practically any object can kill if its put into the wrong hands…and in those situations, it won’t matter if they do it from 20 feet away or from 2 feet. If you aren’t prepared for the encounter, you will likely get severely injured and/or die.
Do you all think that it’s that simple? “Oh he has a knife, he has to get close so it will be harder for him to hurt us.” Do you honestly think those kids in that school had some kind of knife defense training or any self defense training at all in order to prevent them from panicking the moment they realize they might die? Do you think they know how to properly disarm an attacker who is holding a knife and subdue them accordingly? What about the teachers? Don’t assume that because its a melee weapon that you have an advantage.
Stop trying to force the blame on guns. Blame the people using the guns, and other weapons, to harm others.
hey dawg i’m a united states marine and lemme tell you
we are armed with firearms for a reason
they make us more efficient. they make us more dangerous. they keep us out of melee range of the enemy. we are able to use fire and maneuver (thanks to the distance) to close with and destroy the enemy
if you really believe knives are as dangerous as guns, explain to me why we aren’t just deployed with ka-bars ya fucking shitting infant
be intellectually honest, at the very least. it’s really not much to ask, i promise
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The pro-gun crowd has been jerking off on this story all day. This Marine two responses above me lays it out pretty nicely: Yes, there is a BIG fucking difference between a weapon that injured 17 people and one that killed 26.
“A knife is a killer, just like a gun. Pretending like it isn’t, and that guns are worse, is a ridiculous notion.” Yeah, bro. Sooooooo ridiculous to imply that an incident in which no one was killed is better than an incident in which a number of people were killed.
`The solution to this problem is simple. Just give all the teachers knives. Oh and, dang, if only that security guard had had a knife this whole thing could have been avoided. We need more knives, not less!
I’ve come to the conclusion that some people just can’t see past their noses when it comes to solutions to complex problems or in understanding the complexities of life. A kid shoots up a school, as in the case in Sandy Hook, and the very best solution they can come up with is putting guns into every school. To them, it is not only the best solution, it is the only solution. Arm the principals and the teachers and have a nice Rambo like gun rack at the entrance to every school lobby and presto, no more gun violence. Problem solved. Easy as pie, or as shooting a 22.
Well, gee, I don’t know, but it seems to me, that if the adults in this nation actually did put guns into every school and arm every principal then it would be reasonable to assume that every child in this nation would be learning that guns are indeed a legitimate solution to complex issues. Problem too complex? Heck, just shoot it. Any sane person can see that your average gun nut solution to problems does not not lead to less gun violence in this nation.
So, yeah. The answer to knife violence in our schools is more knives and more guns, ‘cause, bang bang, you’re dead. Problem solved.